Obama-Romney: Who Won the Oct. 16 Presidential Debate?

President Barack Obama and former Gov. Mitt Romney squared off in their second debate Tuesday at Hofstra University in Hempstead, NY. Patch users in Connecticut offered their thoughts.

CBS called it “the most rancorous debate ever,” as President Barack Obama and former Gov. Mitt Romney stood toe-to-toe Tuesday night describing the other as a liar.

The format was in a “town hall” style at Hofstra University, and the presidential hopefuls directly confronted each other, often after ignoring the question asked by an audience member.

Patch readers in Connecticut participated in a live blog during the debate, sharing their own impressions of the candidates and voicing their own opinions of the issues. Many people who posted to the blog already had their minds made up on for whom they will vote in November, but others weren’t so certain at the start. Here are some of the reactions:


Obama coming out swinging.


How can anyone actually watch this and think a straight answer is in the near future?


All Mitt needs to do now is stomp his foot LOL (like a 3 year old).

Paul Alexander:

This election is not about Obama/Biden or Romney/Ryan. This election is about US. What kind of people are the majority in this country? What kind of people have the majority become? What kind of people do the majority wish to be in the future?


Obama is so much better than Mitt, Mitt just can't loose the smirk.


You know it seems you all are looking for the best actor here. How about vote on substance and not fluff. Obama has crushed the US the past four years and time for him to leave.

Jimmy Pursey:

This election is a done deal. The Republican Party never had any intention of winning it, hence the comically inept candidates.

This election cycle was about "positioning"...for 2016. Nothing more...nothing less. America is fine. America is strong. Americans have persevered through ACTUAL hardship. How dare you cheapen our nation's struggles. You should be ashamed of yourself.


I'm beginning to think Obama took a dive in the first debate so he could deliver the knockout punch in this one.


If there was a problem, I would much prefer Obama at the helm

Will Wilkin:

As for this election: VOTE SCHMOTE. The 2 parties have only the tiniest differences, both are toxic to the nation, not only shipping our economy overseas but also bankrupting us on permanent multiple undeclared aggressive illegal unconstitutional wars, tearing up the Bill of Rights and Constitution to continue the attempted global military domination on borrowed money.


The Town Hall format is very different from the panel format. This interactive audience style will be harder for President Obama to attack Romney's talking points.

Klair Waters:

When the President speaks about "Green jobs" he is saying there will be more pay offs to his pals.


Romney is clearly a better orator and his responses are much better organized and conveyed.


Romney making up his facts up as he goes along and because all the facts he doesn’t put on the table. He wants to win [but] doesn’t want intelligent conversation.


If I was undecided before I no longer am. Give Obama another 4.

Who do you think won Round 2 of the presidential debates? Tell us in the comment section.

J C Abbott October 17, 2012 at 04:40 PM
Yes, we want Obama to do what he's been doing for the last 4 years- trying to clean up the mess left by 8 years of Bush; trying to get through to the republicans 'across the aisle' who try to block everything he does; stand up for the real majority, not the so-called 1% or less who have more money than they know what to do with, so they stash it OFF SHORE. Do you guys have any idea how much $$$$ Romney and his incredibly wealthy friends, supporters and backers have in foreign tax havens? Does this mean anything to you? Like R doesn't give a shit about the rest of us? Do you really want to support R&R when they are as reliable as a chameleon? Talk about integrity, opacity, and fundamentally honest integrity-
J C Abbott October 17, 2012 at 04:51 PM
Jane- Word! To any who would even Think of taking anything away from PP, think again. Women will not stand for having their access to affordable health care reversed or in any way reduced. Do Not go there. There are too many women, especially young women, who want, need and Deserve to take care of themselves and cannot without the assistance of PP.
J C Abbott October 17, 2012 at 05:14 PM
new london tax payer- sorry my friend, but R is clearly not better. neither is Ryan. They're frightening. I neither drink, drug nor video-game. I don't appreciate your comments. I think you need to read up on MR and his ghastly running mate. Do your fellow citizens a favour and read: " We should listen, because Romney certainly has an enormous amount to improve upon when it comes to telling the truth: 43 percent of what comes out of his mouth is mostly false or worse. It makes sense, then, that he would forget to pass this lesson along to his running-mate, Paul Ryan, who perpetuated this wave of lies in last night's vice-presidential debate. I've already outlined the Romney-Ryan top 10 lies, but now it's time for a few more." -http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jess-coleman/vice-presidential-debate_b_1961518.html http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829
steven espinoza October 17, 2012 at 05:58 PM
Four more years with President Obama will inevitably afford him the opportunity to straighten out this economic mess our country is in. Once our president is able to give the necessary credits to our american businesses and bring our work back home, I'm certain our economy will pick up. The president is on track with making comprehensive plans for our fuels, healthcare, and the way american's are taxed. The president just needs more time to make these things happen. And we could blame on any administration, but we have been in an economic slump for quite some years since President Clinton got us out of debt.
John Martin October 17, 2012 at 06:20 PM
Nonsense and other stuff. Over a half billion dollars 'invested' in green energy - almost every one of those investments have failed. Most also enriched connected democrats and their families as well as traditional big dollar democratic supporters by the way. Drilling on private land is up marginally - though the feds are using the EPA to hammer at this activity. Drilling on public lands is pretty much showpiece drilling - make it look good, but keep it down to a trickle. Gasoline does not double in price in 4 years by accident. Mr. Obama subscribes to the Keynesian model. It failed during the second half of the New Deal - if it weren't for WWII, the depression would have gone on for several more years - and gotten much, much worse. Our credit is shot. Rounds of quantitative easing has done nothing but run up more unsustainable debt. And Mr. Obama has failed to get a budget passed in 4 years despite controlling the House and Senate for the first two years of his term. The Senate under Harry Reid hasn't even brought one out of committee. Ever. Time for a clean sweep.
Sharon Pealer October 17, 2012 at 07:25 PM
Someday he might even decide to share what it is, or is it really just more of the same?
Rick McDonald October 17, 2012 at 08:01 PM
Please show me where and how Clinton got us out of debt. Clinton had a budget surplus however he added to the national debt every year he was in office. The national debt averaged 5.5 Trillion for his presidency.
Kevin Marcks October 17, 2012 at 08:10 PM
Too many people on this blog are headline readers. There's too much polorization in our parties and people allow themselves to be sold a headline in the name of a party. That is why you will never get honesty in politics. Each side wants to win at any cost so they close their eyes and pull their lever. Some of our bloggers above have used Obama's actions to determine his future intent - I think that is fair. That's the way our parents taught us about the poeple around us when we grew up. Why is it that we excuse our politicians actions just because they are in your party? Shouldn't we hold our politicians accountable for what they say? Vote because you truely believe that he or she is the best person for the job. Do not vote because of the hate written about the other guy. Let's take our country back from the politicians!
Casey October 17, 2012 at 09:03 PM
It surprises me that nobody talks about the fact that Obama (and Democrats overall) support the goals and ideology of Unionism. It would help me if some of the Obama supporters would explain to me how increasing the power and influence of unions will be a good thing.
Peace Maker October 17, 2012 at 09:18 PM
We the people won the Oct 16th debate. Now we know Romney has a 5 point plan to take America into thre future in clarity, and we also know that Obama, the great communicator,did not or forgot to articulate a way out of this bad economy, or his flatering foreign policy.
REVMAN October 17, 2012 at 11:08 PM
If you are on a fixed income(someday everybody will be) are you better off now than you were 4 years ago My answer is a BIG NO.I will vote my pocketbook(wallet) on this election and I think I will take Obama at his word "I'll resign If I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years"
jane October 17, 2012 at 11:32 PM
John Y - The economy has been improving for 43 straight months. Unemployment is down to 7.8% - we now have more people working then when he took office. The deficit is down from when he took office and is projected to be under 1T next year. His policies have created less spending than ANY other Prez in the last 80 years, except Eisenhower, BUT even less than Ike if you consider inflation. AND THAT Includes his stimulus money and the auto bailout. Budget? The House has not put forth one that has passed a vote this past year. They shot down Obama's because it might make him look 'good'. Taxes are lower than when he took office. Government is MUCH smaller. Inflation has run even or negative during this term - hard to say prices are up overall. Interest rates still at lowest levels. Stock market up to 13000+ from the 6500 when he took office. He ended one war - timeline on the other. When should I stop? Tell me again what has been so bad since Jan 2009. We didn't fall off the cliff the Republicans had in their sights. Good enough for me.
Jim Aspen October 17, 2012 at 11:44 PM
SS monthly payment to go up $12-$24 a month. Gasoline doubles in price.
John Martin October 18, 2012 at 02:26 AM
Jane - interesting the California somehow failed to submit their data in time for the last unemployment report before the election. Fancy that. The House has put out and voted out budgets the past two years. It is the Senate that can't get a budget to a floor vote. Sorry. The deficit is down? News to me - and the planet. Mr. Obama has racked up staggering deficits - and we don't really even know the true damage because of all the pay-go and other shenanigans. It is a fact that Mr. Obama has racked up a ridiculous amount of debt - all on his own. His economic policies - largely failures. Any gains are due to the regular infusion of cash that we don't have to prop up our sputtering economy. GM is waiting until Nov 7th to announce that if the government doesn't bail them out again, they are going bankrupt. Again. Bet they are hoping that your guy wins - I don't think that most Americans agree with the 'too big to fail argument' anymore. Shall we talk Solyndra? The IMF has lowered it's expectations for the next 2 years and despite those gains you tout, we barely have returned to a level playing field. Third quarter growth was only 1.3% - that's not a good sign at all. Government shrinking? I guess if you use the cost of government as a percentage of GDP - then you see a 1.4% - mostly because of mandatory shrinkage because Reid can't pass a budget. Running out of space and interest in correcting you. Bye.
John Martin October 18, 2012 at 02:35 AM
Jane - overall production includes private lands. In August, the EPA issued an edict closing drilling on half of the 23 million acre Federal Petroleum reserve lands in Alaska. Senator Mark Begich - a democrat - led the entire Alaskan delegation with this protest. the largest wholesale land withdrawal and blocking of access to an energy resource by the federal government in decades. [This decision]will cause serious harm to the economy and energy security of the United States, as well as to the state of Alaska.” Let's not even talk about Keystone. That not only threw away millions of gallons of oil it also flushed thousands - if not tens of thousands - of long term jobs down the toilet. Do you really want to keep debating Mr. Obama being an oil baron?
REVMAN October 18, 2012 at 02:50 AM
Jim Aspen SS had no raises(under Obama) for 2 years (first time in 62years) and 3.6% the 3rd year(medicare went up 8%) now this year 1.7% plus Medicare goes up so that raise will be almost nothing.If your working when you retire after 30 years that 2% not taking out of your pay(2+years) will cost $20,000 in long term .Thats why this is why the didn't geve the people a Fed tax break.
pat hartley October 18, 2012 at 04:03 AM
Pres. Obama won! Romney wants women to go back to popping out babies yearly or bloody hangers or both and I do not want to go back to that time.Without family planning women are out of the work place once again!
NewLondonSource October 18, 2012 at 09:58 AM
@Steven: Actually, it was Bush Senior that got us out of debt. The policies he put in place didn't hit their stride until Clinton took office (Slick Willy didn't change anything, he just let it run its course). Clinton, naturally, took the credit. Clinton was actually the one who started our spending spiral, which was continued by George W, and further exacerbated by Obama (to much great extent, mind you). We can only hope the Romney/Ryan budget plan is more than smoke & mirrors, although at least it's a plan where Obama has none.
Chris Griffin October 18, 2012 at 12:59 PM
That is right ...someday everyone will be on a fixed income. At that time most of us will become one of the 47% and according to FORMER Govener Romney you will be a freeloader.
Chris Griffin October 18, 2012 at 01:07 PM
He has been very open about it. Unlike his opponent who after being called out still wont say what he will cut to balance the budget. Pell grants? You bet they will be cut. How does that sound? Fair? What else? Who knows but you can be sure it will be painful for the middle class family and he wont care a bit becasue he and his family is already set for life.
Bill M October 18, 2012 at 01:37 PM
The biggest problem: Arrogance + Ignorance = Easily manipulable voter.
Rick McDonald October 18, 2012 at 01:38 PM
The Government (Federal and State) funding covers around one third of Planned Parenthood's annual operating expenses. Planned Parenthood claims that none of that funding is used for abortion's so how would pulling Federal funding (State funding would remain) affect Planned Parenthood's abortion coverage? Additionally what right do you have to force others to support something they do not believe in (abortion as a means of birth control) by using tax dollars to fund it?
farm guy October 18, 2012 at 01:55 PM
Chris, Romney is on record stating he won't touch Pell Grants.
farm guy October 18, 2012 at 02:00 PM
Bill, take a look at Bill Clinton's second term, particularly the last two years. Economy heading south. Bush never complained, rolled up his sleaves and tried to fix it. Obama is doing the same, except he has whined about it every day. The business cycle goes up and down. Where the business cycle is when you take office will determine what people remember about you. Reagan started on the upswing, Clinton rode the bubble and the start of the slide, Bush rode the slide and Obama is in the slide as well. Whoever wins will be there for the start of the upswing and look like a hero.
Rick McDonald October 18, 2012 at 02:10 PM
Although I do not agree fully with his 47% comments please, Chris, provide a link to anything where Romney actually calls them freeloaders.
Chris Griffin October 18, 2012 at 02:16 PM
Farm Guy, Thanks for the clarification. That would be good news. Where/when did he state this? It would be comforting to see this somewhere in writing or on a video clip because it is a huge concern. If he is going to extend the Bush tax cuts for all and balance the budget he is going to have a huge hole to fill. If he is not going to touch Social Security either, which he has already stated, what will be cut?
Chris Griffin October 18, 2012 at 04:16 PM
I was paraphrasing. If you state that "... I do not agree fully with his 47% comments ..." then you must knwo what was said and know what I was refferring to. So why would you need a link to it?
Rick McDonald October 18, 2012 at 04:44 PM
Your statement Chris, according to FORMER Govener Romney you will be a freeloader, indicates this is a statement by Romney not paraphrasing on your part. I do in fact know what he said and I did not ask for a link to his 47% comments I ask for a link to any comment in which he says they are freeloaders, you cannot since he has not. If it is your interpretation that he believes they are freeloaders I would say it is a valid interpretation but he never actually said it and I believe that insinuating such simply muddies the waters further.
Chris Griffin October 18, 2012 at 05:33 PM
If you agree with my interpertaion then you must have known we were talking about the same comment. Why ask for a link to some other commet where he actually used the word "freeloader"?
Rick McDonald October 18, 2012 at 07:10 PM
I give Chris, it is obvious that you have no comprehension of what I have said or what information I asked for.


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